why such an archaic technology as e-mail. you know the kids all text now. they don't e-mail. >> i know, or twitter. we could have made the record by tweets. >> stephen: yeah, each one would be like very haiku like. >> short songs. >> stephen: but how long before you got together to dot music together if you collaborated via e-mail? >> we are were both like we would have tours, we would have other records that we were doing in the meantime. we were in no hurry to do this. so in between we would get together for like three or four days and record a bunch of songs like four songs, and then go okay, that was goo. -- good. >> stephen: annie, are you an artist. >> sometimes, yeah. >> stephen: yeah, are you one of those i asked david last time he was here, are you one of those artists who has trouble with the idea that you might actually be ode? no, no i don't mean that as a bad thing. i mean that most of humanity, and i asked new last time, humanity is what we think of as common or ode. i think sometimes artists are trapped by their need to be extraordinary. and